Stories and Learning

What about stories?

Ok: I told my little children stories about their father, when he was a child, how he played with other children, how he made a bicycle out of old parts after the war ..and so on: The picture: father is…, he can be a leader, a tradesman, “Papa” is a man who is able to do many, many things. And he is a person easy to be injured: a man with many qualities, that is his personality.

I am a man with many qualities I learned over my life: many skills, events (sunrise..), the language, the german language, specific thinking, theoretical thinking, his values, the language of western music,  history, special interpretations of history and much more.

All this I learned in the past, they all are old structures/stories/qualities and they all have an effect on the present (and the future), and they make it possible to survive. And I don´t want to miss most of them. I understand, these qualities make my world. This world is full of suitable “things” and junk, cleared more or less, its like going through a  forest without seeing the sky, or a specific blue world, Peters world.

What exactly are “stories” in the sense of TSK, what should I let go, when I want to understand more of TSK?



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6 Responses to Stories and Learning

  1. michaelg says:

    A wonderful discussion, that looks at stories in different ways–each way a story in its own right. Reading what Peter, David, and Hayward have written, I get the feeling that stories can be received as significant and important, testaments to the past, and bridges anchoring relationship with family and friends, or they can be viewed as the blossoming of an energy that is not fundamentally apprehended by them. I seem to view my own stories as interesting inventions that nudge me along paths which are basically enjoyable to travel. It feels as if I am learning to tell better stories–both those I compose and those I live. But that is a luxury not everyone has. My life is easy, so my stories are more comedy than tragedy.– Michael

  2. Hayward says:

    Good Morning Peter
    The stories you tell are charming and of value to you and future generations. I appreciate your integrity

    I do not think TSK advises us to “let go” of stories, but rather to appreciate time and space and knowledge as the content and context , the weaver and the woven, the fabric and the pattern of the story. The setting, story line and all the elements can be viewed as expressions of time and location. The characters, represent a time and way of knowing.

    I believe the TSK vision invites us to view in all experience an intrinsic presence that makes transparent the surface appearance. The ground of being is the ground of all story. We can keep and convey the form without ignoring its essence.

    Thank You

    • csherwood says:

      Hello Hayward
      Your last paragraph:
      ‘I believe the TSK vision invites us to view in all experience an intrinsic presence that makes transparent the surface appearance. The ground of being is the ground of all story. We can keep and convey the form without ignoring its essence,’
      is the basis for an essay. Each of the sentences calls out for expansion/further explanation.
      I know I keep banging on about writing more for the ‘general public’ about TSK – it is one of my passions.
      Might you have time in the next few months to turn that first para into a longer piece? I think it could be useful.

      • Hayward says:

        Hello Caroline
        I too feel a strong sense of purpose with regard to conveying the TSK vision to a larger audience. A book of fresh essays might serve some purpose. However, I believe that for TSK to take wings in the west it needs to be presented as a psychology. A theoretical school of personality and perceptual development with its own psychotherapy underpinnings and therapeutic methods.

        Todate, TSK has been read as cosmology, epistemology and philosophy. It is psychology that appears to have most relevance in people’s lives. TSK is a psychology that has a cosmology, an epistemology and a philosophy. Pretty comprehensive and deep roots, don’t you think?

    • Peter says:

      Hello Hayward,
      thank you for your answer. It´s a reason, to think about what you tell.
      I also read your web site and your “60.000 hours of in depth conversations” (= ca. 5 hours each day within 40 years!). I think, conversations in your jobs have the goal to make a diagnosis, perhaps with a number of ICD (International classification). My question: when half of your professional life was filled up with this activity to reduce complexity to a name or a number, how were you able to bring together (to integrate) professional thinking and the TSK-Vision (TSK invites complexity)? Had you to live in/on different layers? This is a question for me in working with TSK: I often are switching between layers in accordance of the demands on my life.

  3. Hi Peter,
    I love your question at the end. I asked that myself back in 2009 and wrote this entry at the link below”:


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