I enjoyed this exploration very much – thanks for the recordings. They are my lifeblood, because, having a chronic illness, and the call being at 3:00 a.m. Sydney-time, I’m not likely to join you on the phone.
So, in response to the experiment on ‘a moment of time,’ I ask can such a moment be experienced independent of the intention that comes with such attention? I saw, with this experiment, that a moment in time includes the shaping elements of attention and intention. Jack said: “A moment in time constitutes what matters to me.” What matters to me constitutes any moment in time. Very much centred on the self, as Jack said.
Jack further asked us to contemplate: “What is given, in this moment of time? What is the world, the reality, that is constituted in this moment in time?” It seems to me, that the person I am, who is holding the question, is included in the moment of time. For me, this opens a possibility of a bigger Implicit ‘time.’ That is, there is some kind of ‘occuring’ which gives rise to the one who is in the process of investigating the question, “What is given in this moment of time?”
Similar to Jack, if I had any sense of past or future, they were present as a referring of a kind enacted from the base of this moment of time. Perhaps Jack’s way of saying this (which I am saying about the ‘higher’ implicit order) is to say, “Our sense of ‘given-together’is something that is broader than… or maybe you could just say: it operates in a different dimension than our usual understanding of past-present-future….”
In this way, it’s not comprehensive to say that time is either objective or subjective. It is certainly shaped as by our interests, by our senses, and experiences, memories, and so on. (Subjective, objective, peripheral); but it is ‘more.’
If we ask about this conversation where having, or my writing this, then we hypothesise – or perhaps we, as a working basis, provisionally designate ‘successive moments in time’which we creatures share. But such moments can’t be ‘proven’ to be independent of our attention; but his attention is shaped by ‘more’ than our subjective apprehensions/perceptions. That is, on the other hand, we can’t have a ‘subjective’moment of time, without some referent – something to refer to, something ‘objective’ – which I’m calling the implicit ‘occuring.’
May all beings be well.