Look through descriptive knowledge for evidence of polar knowledge

I wanted to mention that during the phone exercise the other day, I also experienced that ‘flickering energetic‘ event that both Hayward and Bruce mentioned.

I  began as instructed with the intent to observe, as immediately as possible, prior to descriptive knowledge.  So I closed my eyes and exhaled to clear my mind.  As one who meditates I’ve found this sometimes helps momentarily clear the air (mind) so to speak.  This flickering, energetic quality began immediately, and the urge to know and identify what followed was almost immediate.  The ‘what’ seemed to hang in my mind.  It reminded me of the broken-record disconnect repeating very fast, that I mentioned in my last post.  I checked my closed eyes to feel if there was rapid eye movement causing the flickering, but there was none.  I remembered feeling this energetic flickering before during meditation.  And then that moment was over, which lasted perhaps a few tenths of a second or so.

Again I remembered my intent to observe, I inhaled and exhaled long and slow to clear the mind, but the flickering did not return.  What occurred was observing sensual input that was streaming in.  Then observing the urge to know, and the involuntary describing the sensual observations using names, as I filled in the moment… this sound in the phone, that sound outside, this feeling against my arm, that one against my back, then, the intent to clear the mind again kicked in…exhale, clear mind…observe… and repeat…

The ‘flickering’ reminded me of ‘rapid fire‘ impressions, like taking pictures super fast, with blanks in between each firing of an impression.  But then, the observation was not visual, it seemed like many tiny events.


About David Filippone

I have been a student of Tarthang Tulku’s Time, Space, Knowledge (TSK) vision for over twenty-five years. For the past twelve years, I’ve studied TSK and Full Presence Mindfulness with Jack Petranker, director of the Center for Creative Inquiry (CCI). I have also participated in programs offered by Carolyn Pasternak of the Odiyan Center. For the past several years, I have curated the CCI Facebook page, which is often TSK-focused, and I serve on the CCI Board of Directors. The CCI Facebook page can be found at the following link... https://tinyurl.com/ybyfolcf
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1 Response to Look through descriptive knowledge for evidence of polar knowledge

  1. tinac says:

    Hey David,

    I was disturbed at first by Jack’s claim that it is impossible to experience polar knowledge, but when I began to debate it and inquire into his statement, I realized that once I begin to describe any experience, it is descriptive knowledge, and even if I don’t realize I am describing it, or prior to that realization, beneath the surface of my descriptive experience, my senses are already processing the data at deeper levels.

    I thought about a baby. Even in the womb as that baby is being fed through a chord, the senses are at work processing and interpreting the experience. Maybe not at the level that consciousness can be understood or explained, b/c the experience has not been conditioned in that way, but still, it is being interpreted through sense perception and stored in memory…

    Amazing this gift of awareness we have…I was thinking of ways that I could experience polar knowledge without it being descriptive, and finally I had to agree with Jack’s determination, that to do so, would mean that it would have to be experienced without the process of my senses interpreting it…which, in that case, there would be no experience.

    lol…happy holidays to all…be filled with joy…

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